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Online Piracy

Discussion in 'Serious Business' started by Zags, Aug 22, 2013.

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  1. Zags

    Zags (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    Well first off I would like to talk a little about what online piracy is. As most of you may know Piracy is where one steals another ones stuff. Online piracy is when one steals items that others spend their hard earned money on.

    I would like to tell my background on piracy and what happened to me. Anyways, I will admit I was a "pirate" I downloaded many games and software for free (these have now been deleted from my computer). I received an email a few days after I downloaded this new game. It was from my ISP. Basically it stated that you have been doing illegal things on our internet and we are going to shut you down if you don't stop. I ended up deleting everything from the program I used to download them, to the programs themselves. I didn't want any trouble. I am a teen who is just looking to have fun playing games and didn't want to pay the money for a brand new game. But, I learned my lesson. I do not support online piracy from this day forth.

    Anyways, Basically I am just asking you guys, Do you support Online Piracy or not? Do you think Online Piracy should be more strictly enforced? Does my experience change your thoughts?

    I am really curious as to see what you think about Piracy.


  2. Recordbreak

    Recordbreak Retired Staff Retired Staff

    I've cracked a few programs that would've cost me well over $100, and I didn't think anything of it at the time. I've also downloaded some songs for free with a video to MP3 converter; didn't think anything of that too. I now feel a little weird for doing so, I know it's illegal and it leaves a weird feeling knowing you've done something illegal.
    From a cheap standpoint I guess I'd support piracy, since it's benefitted me in the long run. Actually, I don't support piracy. It's not fair to get things for free that cost money for others, that's pretty final.
    It's a hard task to enforce piracy, lots of companies don't even notice that people are pirating their products. If it were easier to enforce, somehow, I would agree that it should be enforced. People would finally start paying for things, and companies would make the money they deserved to earn when they released their products online.
  3. Zags

    Zags (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    They are trying to find ways on how to help prevent this. I know torrenting and seeding torrents is a big deal. They are cracking down on that a lot more. Considering I downloaded about 3 games before I was notified.
  4. TTM

    TTM Retired Staff Retired Staff

    I don't support it at all. It's just wrong IMO. If you want something, you should just buy it instead of doing something illegal to get it. I know a friend who was pirating many, MANY things and he had to suffer the consequences.
  5. trexmasterrace

    trexmasterrace Assembly Line Worker

    they cant catch me if theyre dead nomsayin lol not srs

    but srs just use a vpn like me i swear some people you have to think for them
    use a trusted vpn though that wont give its logs away

    torrent = not big deal at all what makes you think this

    hes an idiot for getting caught
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2013
  6. The Pivoter

    The Pivoter TheOfficialPivotex Mechanic

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    I like piracy.
  7. Zags

    Zags (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    Do you even read rules? Look at the rules of the serious business forum.
  8. <spi>

    <spi> go home roger TrackMill Pro TrackMill Pro

    I've torrented stuff, I'm not going crazy with it, and when I get extra cash I try to buy any torrented items. I't mostly music to use in mixes. I think I only have three programs right now. I'm not necessarily "for" piracy, but if you don't go crazy with it or plan to pay it back it's not a big deal.

    Relevant: I have a friend who pirates every piece of music he owns before buying it to see if he likes it enough to pay for it.
  9. newgon123

    newgon123 TrackMill Staff Moderator Staff Member Mod

    I really don't pirate stuff. when I buy music its usually just albums and I buy those from like best buy or someplace like that. The only thing I might pirate is photoshop (right now GIMP is fine for me). Speaking of piracy, google SOPA 3.0, not sure if thats legit or not but yeah.
  10. <spi>

    <spi> go home roger TrackMill Pro TrackMill Pro

    Fairly certain SOPA 3.0 is real, as far as I'm aware, they never stopped trying to pass it.
  11. Zags

    Zags (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    I didn't go crazy with it. 3 games is all I downloaded.
  12. <spi>

    <spi> go home roger TrackMill Pro TrackMill Pro

    You're bad at it then... Honestly... Or, someone else in your house is pirating stuff too.
  13. Ailegy

    Ailegy Hugs :3 Mechanic

    Favorite Game:
    Cat Ninja
    Pirating isn't stealing. It's Copying. No-one would know if you pirated their software apart from the download stats go up by 1. The software is still their and always will be. The person who bought it obviously supports pirating because he/she uploaded it for the means of us to download it.

    I have pirated a bit of music production software but now I've got what i need and I've stopped. I don't pirate because YOLO like other people. And also i never get torrents. Most my software is off uploaded.net and is cracked by teams, Such as TEAM Air etc etc... I then change the serials of my software to something personal so if the software gets internet access it can't put blame on TEAM Air or any other team.

    I completely support pirating but only for software, not games. Software because people want to try it before they buy it, but with no restrictions. If they find themselves using the software alot then they should buy it. Games... no-ones gonna buy it if they've already got it for free..
  14. TrapperJohn

    TrapperJohn Que Sera, Sera Engineer

    This is pretty much what I do. Most everything I pirate I've bought after I've done so. I downloaded a buttload of music until I realized I really loved the band I was practically stealing from, and now I buy any of their albums that I see.
    Same with games for me. I've only downloaded three. GTA3, Vice City, and Hotline Miami. I have GTA3 on my iPod and Vice City for my PS3 and iPod. I probably won't get Hotline Miami though, stopped playing it after it got outrageously hard for me :p
  15. The Pivoter

    The Pivoter TheOfficialPivotex Mechanic

    Favorite Game:
    Free Rider 2
    It just means the software is being consumed and used more by people.

    However, if you have the money to buy stuff, especially online, then you don't need to worry about piracy.
  16. Haxzerz

    Haxzerz Bolt

    technically piracy is not stealing
    e; i see now more people said that, ohwell

    torrenting is not the same as piracy, torrenting is merely a way of downloading in a p2p network and it's pretty quick because you get data from multiple peers instead of just one server.

    i would not say i 'support' piracy in most cases, movies and music and all that jazz should just be paid for, *but* i have no problem whatsoever with pirating software and other stuff from unethical companies
    if your software installer has crapware with it *and* you're charging for it, you deserve to have your ˚˚˚˚ pirated.

    also, the industry should try to adapt more to piracy, it's not a new thing anymore and instead of lobbying for overly broad blockages (eg. tpb, kat) that don't work anyway they could actually use the model profitably

    i'm not for downloading stuff for free that you should be paying for but if the stuff that you're downloading is ridiculously overpriced or the stuff is by a company that doesn't give a ˚˚˚˚ for people, you're giving off a nice signal, although the best thing to do would be to not use it at all

    i'm in favor of a full pay-what-you-want libertarian socialist anarchy everywhere so that would kind of fit in

    e; and pirating ˚˚˚˚ and buying it if you like it seems fine enough too. kind of a pay-what-you-want thing too, although perhaps more of a pay-if-you-want

    e; trippy Mist says "also i never get torrents"
    torrents are a great invention and torrents are not illegal at all and torrents are better than straight 1-to-1 downloads and torrents are social, you should use torrents wherever possible because 1) it's faster and 2) you're helping others get the stuff you're downloading faster as well
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2013
  17. trexmasterrace

    trexmasterrace Assembly Line Worker

    torrent = not a big deal

    do you even respond on topic?
    you said you knew torrent was a big deal what makes you think that?
    lol this guy
  18. _Raptor_

    _Raptor_ Trackmill Staff Mechanic

    I'll admit I've downloaded my fair share of games and softwares illegally. It's mostly because either A: I don't have the money and I really want it or B: I think the company is greedy (example: EA) and they don't deserve my money. But I know pirating is wrong, it's just so hard to avoid because I like the convenience of playing a game without having to buy it. But you can't really say it's as bad as physically stealing; if you steal a game from a store the video game company loses money for the cost of the disk and the case, and the store loses money because they spent money to get the game and the video game company, etc.. But if you pirate something, no one loses anything. But atill, the only time I think it is fully justified is if you need a 1000 dollar software just for modding a game.

    As for music, I never pirate it because there are so many free, legal ways to listen (Spotify, Pandora, Youtube) That I don't feel it's worth the risk, and most legal options actually support the artist I'm listening to (you can say the same thing about games, but there is no free legal way to support them.)

    TL;DR I pirate games sometimes, but I feel somewhat bad about it too. But I don't think it is as bad as physically stealing.
  19. Ailegy

    Ailegy Hugs :3 Mechanic

    Favorite Game:
    Cat Ninja
    I never pirate music either. All the good edm these days are made by the unsigned artists who just want followers instead of money.
  20. trexmasterrace

    trexmasterrace Assembly Line Worker

    go arty .
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